Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S935187AbZJOVCd (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:02:33 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1763034AbZJOVCc (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:02:32 -0400 Received: from cpsmtpm-eml110.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.14]:63925 "EHLO CPSMTPM-EML110.kpnxchange.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1763031AbZJOVCb (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:02:31 -0400 From: Frans Pop To: David Rientjes Subject: Re: [PATCH, v2] kbuild: Improve version string logic Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:01:53 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 Cc: Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds , Dirk Hohndel , Len Brown , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <200910151613.10334.elendil@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200910152301.54826.elendil@planet.nl> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2009 21:01:54.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9913130:01CA4DDA] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1790 Lines: 40 On Thursday 15 October 2009, David Rientjes wrote: > Sigh, this is becoming ridiculous. Yes, I thoroughly agree. I'm afraid I don't see much point in repeating my arguments anymore. We seem to be unable to get eachothers arguments. I think I understand your PoV, or at least your aims, and I even agree with those. I don't think you really get my concerns about the implementation, but I give up. I seem unable to make you understand; probably my limitation. So, let's just agree to disagree. My conclusion in the mean time is that the whole concept of having the "+" is broken. Especially since my discovery earlier today [1] that it is more than likely to break existing scripts in userspace (not packaging, but regular userspace). I plan to continue to use my own naming conventions, even if that means I have to patch the "+' out of the Makefile. Especially since it seems I have to decide between risking breakage in user space and confirming to this new standard. And that choice is simple. > Do you really expect people to email bug reports and say "btw, I > compiled with KBUILD_NO_LOCALVERSION_EXTRA because I thought it looked > prettier, this is actually Linus' git at a3ccf63"? In the current situation I already frequently provide the output of 'git describe master' as part of bug reports. Nothing new there. And users will *still* need to do that as the "+" does not tell anyone where exactly they are at. It could equally be release +50 or +4000 commits. Cheers. FJP [1] http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/10/15/210 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/