Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756827AbZJPH0n (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:26:43 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756650AbZJPH0n (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:26:43 -0400 Received: from mx2.mail.elte.hu ([157.181.151.9]:50695 "EHLO mx2.mail.elte.hu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756622AbZJPH0m (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:26:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:25:55 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: david@lang.hm Cc: Stefan Richter , Greg KH , Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz , linux-kernel Subject: Re: removing existing working drivers via staging Message-ID: <20091016072555.GB30019@elte.hu> References: <200910151942.40259.bzolnier@gmail.com> <20091015174932.GA3595@suse.de> <200910152020.13080.bzolnier@gmail.com> <20091015184656.GA29858@suse.de> <4AD77AC3.7040905@s5r6.in-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-ELTE-SpamScore: -1.5 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamVersion: ELTE 2.0 X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-1.5 required=5.9 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no SpamAssassin version=3.2.5 -1.5 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1066 Lines: 25 * david@lang.hm wrote: >> Hence the timeline of 3 releases per <20091015164726.GA10125@suse.de> >> affects developers/ janitors much more than end users. > > it may be that I've jumped the gun here with my concerns, and should > just wait until something actually gets moved to staging to see what > the actual policies are going to be in practice, but the policies as > written seem to be very loose. Note that nothing has changed: the same fine folks who worked for 15+ years to give you the OS with the most built-in drivers on this planet (more than 3000 drivers today and counting) are handling this too. Please dont assume that this trend is now being reversed - to the contrary - Linux being able to boot out of box on 99% of the systems out there is one of our biggest strengths. Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/