Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754701AbZJRPGF (ORCPT ); Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:06:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754636AbZJRPGE (ORCPT ); Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:06:04 -0400 Received: from ns.penguin.cz ([84.21.108.25]:36521 "EHLO ns.penguin.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751102AbZJRPGD (ORCPT ); Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:06:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] serial-core: resume serial hardware with no_console_suspend From: Stanislav Brabec To: Andrew Morton Cc: linux@arm.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@suse.de, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, s.hauer@pengutronix.de, saxena@laptop.org, Pavel Machek In-Reply-To: <20091005162741.599a1be9.akpm@linux-foundation.org> References: <1253021938.6597.16.camel@hammer.suse.cz> <20090924170503.37cbe4ed.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090925073617.GA5856@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> <1253872547.13257.18.camel@hammer.suse.cz> <20091005162741.599a1be9.akpm@linux-foundation.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:05:58 +0200 Message-Id: <1255878358.4581.29.camel@utx.utx.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 4870 Lines: 115 Andrew Morton wrote in Mon Oct 05, 2009 at 16:27 -0700: > On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:55:47 +0200 > Stanislav Brabec wrote: > > > Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 05:05:03PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:38:58 +0200 > > > > Stanislav Brabec wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hardware may need re-initialization to get serial port working after > > > > > resume. It does not happen with no_console_suspend. Attached patch > > > > > attempts to fix it. > > > > > > > > > > The patch attempts to keep hardware running before suspend and run > > > > > hardware re-initialization after resume. Maybe simpler approach is > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > The patch doesn't apply any more and seems like a rather hacky thing to do. > > > > Yes, but no_console_suspend itself is a bit hacky. You need to save > > console state but keep it running as long as possible afterwards and > > resume it after return from the sleep. > > > > I was not sure, what exactly should be skipped and what must be run, so > > I experimented a bit. > > > > Not calling hardware suspend/resume (current implementation) breaks > > serial port in hardware that need resume. > > > > Calling of resume without suspend seems to be dangerous. Not calling > > suspend at all and standard initialization on resume would probably > > reset the port setting and maybe cause memory leak. > > > > > > It appears that you have specific serial hardware which doesn't resume > > > > correctly? If so, that's a bug, so how about we start with a bug > > > > report/description? > > > > The hardware resumes correctly. But no_console_suspend breaks its > > resume. > > > > > It's something that I did point out when the no_console_suspend patch > > > appeared, but I was overruled/ignored. > > > > > > The problem is that on ARM hardware, there is no BIOS to re-initialize > > > hardware. The kernel has to do restore the entire system hardware > > > state upon resume. Unfortunately, no_console_suspend not only prevents > > > the console from being suspended but _also_ resumed. > > > > > > The result of that is the console UART is left in a totally uninitialized > > > state. > > > > Exactly, my ARM hardware is PXA270 on Zaurus SL-C3200. > > hm, well. We can't go much further without a patch and the one you > sent won't apply. Can you please redo against current mainline and > resend? I am just working on a rebase, but (besides other minor changes) it conflicts with ba15ab0e8de0d4439a91342ad52d55ca9e313f3d (mentioned below). I would be glad, if somebody would say me, whether it is correct and whether it fixes all affected devices. I cannot actually test any of them on my Zaurus: There is an independent regression that makes impossible to initiate resume. Both patches are trying to do the same: working serial after resume with no_console_suspend, but they do it in a different way: - Deepak Saxena's patch skips suspend process and does reset on resume. - My patch does tricky suspend: Some parts of suspend are called, state is saved, but device is kept in a state that it thinks it is up. It was based on experiments, just guessing what happens there. It was done without deep knowledge of serial code. It attempts to: - Save the hardware state - Perform buffer flush in time of its suspend call - Tell the driver that port is suspended - But still accept new data - And keep console hardware in state that allows to send them Both patches have a the same problem: There are no early resume messages. In difference to BIOS equipped machines, serial port must be properly re-initialized to become working again. It can be fixed either by changing suspend/resume order to wake serial console early in the order, or by a non-standard hook in the early resume process. Very late suspend messages may be lost as well. (It is a generic problem of all devices, not dependent on any of these patches.) It can be prevented by using blocking write of messages or adding an extra sleep after each message. I would afraid of blocking write. There is no guarantee, that serial is still functional messages can be sent. > Do you expect that my some miracle, your patch will also fix > http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/9/30/164 ? My original version of patch removed the early return from the resume, where Deepak Saxena's added chunk resides. With my patch, code always continues in resume, and skips just a minor part of the code. ________________________________________________________________________ Stanislav Brabec http://www.penguin.cz/~utx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/