Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752162AbZJZO4g (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:56:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752041AbZJZO4g (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:56:36 -0400 Received: from THUNK.ORG ([69.25.196.29]:41317 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751822AbZJZO4f (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:56:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:56:37 -0400 From: Theodore Tso To: Robert Bradbury Cc: Thomas Backlund , LKML Subject: Re: RFC: Updating the LKML bug reporting/updating framework Message-ID: <20091026145637.GE13941@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Robert Bradbury , Thomas Backlund , LKML References: <4AE4E026.9070402@mandriva.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@mit.edu X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2130 Lines: 43 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 08:12:23AM -0400, Robert Bradbury wrote: > I was unaware of the kernel.org bugzilla database. Sometimes people > will go from AT&T UNIX to SGI IRIX to Linux without making a stop at > kernel.org. If it comes on a CD and boots relatively easily people > may not bother with such details. I think I started using Linux > around the time I started using Mosaic and that may have been before > the kernel.org site was as robust as it now appears to be (if it > existed at all). > > Given the bugzilla database, is the LKML with its high volume and > noise level (IMO), now largely obsolete [1]? (I think I a Google > search may have led me in the direction that it was the place to > report bugs). Robert, Most end users who use a Linux distribution will have a much better time if they use the support channels (bugzilla, irc, web forums, etc.) for their particular Linux distribution. So if you are using Ubuntu, use the Ubuntu bugzilla and web forums. If you are using Fedora, they have their own bugzilla and web forums. Debian users have the Debian BTS (Bug Tracking System), as well as many mailing lists (focused on debian newbies, debian developers, etc.) The LKML and the kernel bugzilla are best used for people who are working on the mainline Linux kernel, as opposed to the kernels which have been snapshotted and customized for each distribution. Community distributions, which tend to snapshot every six months, do tend to be closer to mainline than Enterprise kernels (RHEL, SLES) that snapshot every 24 months or so, but even some community distributions, such as Ubuntu, do add a significant number of "value add" (and thus, bugs :-) to their kernels. There are also individual sublists for people who are only working on a specific part of the kernel (i.e., the linux-ext4 mailing list, the linux-scsi mailing list, etc). - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/