Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751662AbZKCSa3 (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:30:29 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751008AbZKCSa2 (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:30:28 -0500 Received: from mail-pz0-f188.google.com ([209.85.222.188]:46147 "EHLO mail-pz0-f188.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750845AbZKCSa2 convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:30:28 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bTw6FwOW81QTpGqy6Pvp1qn3sY6UcHitHKLeFW2bXluqJrpzKH5Napyo96++3wsCSb zo+9mD0aPDlMM6D07ye03mXy2r8TJW+0ckoVUddAQzUO8xFaSWd84UZT278NayPf0Ok+ nNk1+IUZg0ZTaQiWpP0woLuOk6sGw3fTv/MAw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <151663.1257260057@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <1257103201.2865.6.camel@chumley> <63587.1257137919@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <151663.1257260057@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> From: Matt Thrailkill Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:30:13 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FatELF patches... To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: "Ryan C. Gordon" , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns_Rullg=E5rd?= , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1858 Lines: 36 On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:54 AM, wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:14:15 EST, "Ryan C. Gordon" said: > >> I probably wasn't clear when I said "distribution-wide policy" followed by >> a "then again." I meant there would be backlash if the distribution glued >> the whole system together, instead of just binaries that made sense to do >> it to. > > OK.. I'll bite - which binaries does it make sense to do so? ?Remember in > your answer to address the very valid point that any binaries you *don't* > do this for will still need equivalent hand-holding by the package manager. > So if you're not doing all of them, you need to address the additional > maintenance overhead of "which way is this package supposed to be built?" > and all the derivative headaches. > > It might be instructive to not do a merge of *everything* in Ubuntu as you > did, but only select a random 20% or so of the packages and convert them > to FatELF, and see what breaks. (If our experience with 'make randconfig' > in the kernel is any indication, you'll hit a *lot* of corner cases and > pre-reqs you didn't know about...) I think he is thinking of only having FatELF binaries for binaries and libraries that overlap between 32- and 64-bit in a distro install. Perhaps everything that is sitting in /lib32 for example could instead be in a FatELF binaries in /lib, alongside the 64-bit binary. A thought I had, that I don't think has come up in this thread: could it be practical or worthwhile for distros to use FatElf to ship multiple executables with different compiler optimizations? i586, i686, etc. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/