Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756234AbZKJMjQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:39:16 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752693AbZKJMjP (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:39:15 -0500 Received: from buzzloop.caiaq.de ([212.112.241.133]:53084 "EHLO buzzloop.caiaq.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751385AbZKJMjP (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:39:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:39:16 +0100 From: Daniel Mack To: David Newall Cc: Alan Cox , Clemens Ladisch , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Andrew Morton , Geert Uytterhoeven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] vt: make the default cursor shape configurable Message-ID: <20091110123916.GX14091@buzzloop.caiaq.de> References: <4AF7DDC1.4090006@ladisch.de> <20091109095316.6283fbd6@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <4AF7FC64.6030904@ladisch.de> <20091109114600.4d91b90e@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20091109145056.GB14091@buzzloop.caiaq.de> <4AF8582B.2000403@davidnewall.com> <20091109220944.GH14091@buzzloop.caiaq.de> <4AF956F8.7090707@davidnewall.com> <20091110123008.GW14091@buzzloop.caiaq.de> <4AF95E6A.3030103@davidnewall.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AF95E6A.3030103@davidnewall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 912 Lines: 20 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:06:58PM +1030, David Newall wrote: > Daniel Mack wrote: > > "A couple of seconds" is still too much. We don't want to give the > > impression of a terminal at all. The whole application starting > > afterwards has no cursor either. > > Or even half a second. Devices regularly flash and squiggle on startup, > often as a diagnostic. Did you look at initialising your display > controller in graphics mode, or with the cursor off? It's a dumb framebuffer device, fbcon handles the rest. From the moment when the framebuffer is initalized until the userspace comes up, it takes ~5 secs, and at this time, we don't want to see the cursor. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/