Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758206AbZKJVb7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:31:59 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753571AbZKJVb6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:31:58 -0500 Received: from exchange.solarflare.com ([216.237.3.220]:18044 "EHLO exchange.solarflare.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751975AbZKJVb5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:31:57 -0500 Subject: Re: sunrpc port allocation and IANA reserved list From: Ben Hutchings To: Chris Friesen Cc: Trond Myklebust , netdev@vger.kernel.org, Linux kernel In-Reply-To: <4AF9D5D1.9040501@nortel.com> References: <4AF9A63B.6010101@nortel.com> <1257875623.2834.19.camel@achroite.uk.solarflarecom.com> <4AF9B2CF.6050305@nortel.com> <1257884799.3044.7.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> <4AF9D5D1.9040501@nortel.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Solarflare Communications Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:32:00 +0000 Message-Id: <1257888720.2834.30.camel@achroite.uk.solarflarecom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 (2.22.1-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 21:32:03.0449 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E868E90:01CA624D] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-8.0.0.1181-6.000.1038-17000.004 X-TM-AS-Result: No--39.690600-0.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: Yes X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2489 Lines: 53 On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 15:06 -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: > On 11/10/2009 02:26 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 12:37 -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: > >> On 11/10/2009 11:53 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > >>> On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 11:43 -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: > >> > >>>> Given that a userspace application can be stopped and restarted at any > >>>> time, and a sunrpc registration can happen at any time, what is the > >>>> expected mechanism to prevent the kernel from allocating a port for use > >>>> by sunrpc that reserved or well-known? > >>>> > >>>> Apparently Redhat and Debian have distro-specific ways of dealing with > >>>> this, but is there a standard solution? Should there be? > >>>> > >>>> The current setup seems suboptimal. > >>> > >>> I believe both RH and Debian are using the same implementation: > >>> . > >> > >> That helps with the startup case, but still leaves a possible hole if an > >> app using a fixed port number is restarted at runtime. During the > >> window where nobody is bound to the port, the kernel could randomly > >> assign it to someone else. > > > > Just use /proc/sys/sunrpc/{max,min}_resvport interface to restrict the > > range used to a safer one. That's what it is for... Unless I'm much mistaken, that only affects in-kernel SunRPC users. > What constitutes a "safer range"? IANA has ports assigned > intermittently all the way through the default RPC range. The largest > unassigned range is 922-988 (since 921 is used by lwresd). If someone > needs more than 66 ports, how are they supposed to handle it? I'm sure we could afford 128 bytes for a blacklist of privileged ports. However, the problem is that there is no API for userland to request 'any free privileged port' - it has to just try binding to different ports until it finds one available. This means that the kernel can't tell whether a process is trying to allocate a specifically assigned port or whether the blacklist should be applied. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings, Senior Software Engineer, Solarflare Communications Not speaking for my employer; that's the marketing department's job. They asked us to note that Solarflare product names are trademarked. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/