Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753254AbZKLPTK (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:19:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753201AbZKLPTG (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:19:06 -0500 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:53914 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753151AbZKLPTE (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:19:04 -0500 Message-ID: <4AFC274C.2020209@zytor.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:18:36 -0800 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090814 Fedora/3.0-2.6.b3.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ingo Molnar CC: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz , x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Jones Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] x86: fix confusing name of /proc/cpuinfo "ht" flag References: <200911112134.34261.bzolnier@gmail.com> <20091112065930.GA9279@elte.hu> <4AFBB45A.9000606@zytor.com> <20091112081317.GB25345@elte.hu> In-Reply-To: <20091112081317.GB25345@elte.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1074 Lines: 29 On 11/12/2009 12:13 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote: >> >> /proc/cpuinfo is a user-space visible ABI. Changing it is bad >> chicken. > > Almost ... something is only an ABI if an actual application relies on > the 'ht' flag being there on non-hyperthreading CPUs. We dont know > whether there's any, but the likelyhood looks pretty low. Could park it > a branch for some time to see whether anything trips up. > No, please. We have had people who have "helpfully" tried to change /proc/cpuinfo in the past, and what we find is that application developers don't tell us -- they grumble among themselves and put out a new release saying "fixes breakage introduced by Linux ..." It's an ABI. Keep it stable, please. -hpa -- H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/