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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:39:43 -0800
From: David Lawyer <dave@lafn.org>
To: Ed Vance <EdV@macrolink.com>
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Subject: Re: Char devices drivers
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 09:59:14AM -0800, Ed Vance wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2002, Henrique Gobbi wrote:
> > 
> > Can anyone explain what is the utility of the callout devices 
> > in the char drivers ???
> 
> To further confuse things, most vendors have a "back door" port
> configuration mechanism outside of termio(s)/sgtty. For example, Linux has
> the setserial command. There is less need for separate callout devices when
> the user can set a port to open with the desired flag values.

Setserial doesn't have facilities to set open flags for the ports.  The
reason cua isn't needed is that the programmer can make a ttyS port look
like a cua port by using the O_NONBLOCK or O_NDELAY flags.  However the
non-blocking flag will not only force an open when CD is asserted, but
will make all reads of the port non-blocking.  So the programmer can
change this if he wants after the port has opened.

So eliminating cua means more work for the programmer but less confusion
for users.  Overall, it's a good thing since there are many more users
than programmers.

			David Lawyer
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