From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: jens.axboe@oracle.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
       Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
       Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
       Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, mszeredi@suse.de
Subject: Re: Performance regression in IO scheduler still there
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	<20091111141031.GA21511@duck.suse.cz>
	<x493a4lot31.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<20091112172941.GK14528@duck.suse.cz>
	<x49pr7npj71.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<20091116104744.GC23231@duck.suse.cz>
	<20091116165804.GA19230@duck.suse.cz>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:03:00 -0500
In-Reply-To: <20091116165804.GA19230@duck.suse.cz> (Jan Kara's message of
	"Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:58:04 +0100")
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Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> writes:

> On Mon 16-11-09 11:47:44, Jan Kara wrote:
>> On Thu 12-11-09 15:44:02, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>> > Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> writes:
>> > 
>> > > On Wed 11-11-09 12:43:30, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>> > >> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> writes:
>> > >> 
>> > >> >   Sadly, I don't see the improvement you can see :(. The numbers are the
>> > >> > same regardless low_latency set to 0:
>> > >> > 2.6.32-rc5 low_latency = 0:
>> > >> > 37.39 36.43 36.51 -> 36.776667 0.434920
>> > >> >   But my testing environment is a plain SATA drive so that probably
>> > >> > explains the difference...
>> > >> 
>> > >> I just retested (10 runs for each kernel) on a SATA disk with no NCQ
>> > >> support and I could not see a difference.  I'll try to dig up a disk
>> > >> that support NCQ.  Is that what you're using for testing?
>> > >   I don't think I am. How do I find out?
>> > 
>> > Good question.  ;-)  I grep for NCQ in dmesg output and make sure it's
>> > greater than 0/32.  There may be a better way, though.
>>   Message in the logs:
>> ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
>> ata1.00: ATA-8: Hitachi HTS722016K9SA00, DCDOC54P, max UDMA/133
>> ata1.00: 312581808 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 0/32)
>> ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
>>   So apparently no NCQ. /sys/block/sda/device/queue_depth shows 1 but I
>> guess that's just it's way of saying "no NCQ".
>> 
>>   What I thought might make a difference why I'm seeing the drop and you
>> are not is size of RAM or number of CPUs vs the tiobench file size or
>> number of threads. I'm running on a machine with 2 GB of RAM, using 4 GB
>> filesize. The machine has 2 cores and I'm using 16 tiobench threads. I'm
>> now rerunning tests with various numbers of threads to see how big
>> difference it makes.
>   OK, here are the numbers (3 runs of each test):
> 2.6.29:
> Threads	Avg		Stddev
> 1	42.043333	0.860439
> 2	40.836667	0.322938
> 4	41.810000	0.114310
> 8	40.190000	0.419603
> 16	39.950000	0.403072
> 32	39.373333	0.766913
>
> 2.6.32-rc7:
> Threads	Avg		Stddev
> 1	41.580000	0.403072
> 2	39.163333	0.374641
> 4	39.483333	0.400111
> 8	38.560000	0.106145
> 16	37.966667	0.098770
> 32	36.476667	0.032998
>
>   So apparently the difference between 2.6.29 and 2.6.32-rc7 increases as
> the number of threads rises. With how many threads have you been running
> when using SATA drive and what machine is it?
>   I'm now running a test with larger file size (8GB instead of 4) to see
> what difference it makes.

I've been running with both 8 and 16 threads.  The machine has 4 CPUs
and 4GB of RAM.  I've been testing with an 8GB file size.

Cheers,
Jeff
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