Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:49:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:49:22 -0500 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:22417 "EHLO bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:49:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:49:10 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: bkbits.net down Message-ID: <20020329144910.Q32429@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <200203271853.g2RIrRv11812@work.bitmover.com> <20020327222738.B16149@work.bitmover.com> <20020328112252.F22352@work.bitmover.com> <20020329111833.B6490@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Go reread my posts and stop wasting my time. On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 10:44:54PM +0000, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: > Larry McVoy writes: > > >things back together for kernel developers. What, exactly, did you > >hope to accomplish? > > Awareness on your side that there are people presenting valid > arguments to you even if you don't agree. I did read the first posts > of the thread up until it degraded to "our application does every > integrity check possible to verify that the data is correct. So even > if it gets corrupted, we will know. That's why we better than the > rest" and you shot down everyone presenting you with other solutions > with this arguments. Well, in this case, you obviously knew that the > data is incorrect (because the disk died, I'm really feeling with you > here, from my eight IBM DTLA disks, three have died, too and I fear > that the remaining five will also die [1]) but all your checks > couldn't help you where just a few up-to-date backups would have. > > Actually I'm a bit disappointed too, that you with all the > professionalism that you sprikle over this mailing list in every of > your posts, run such a showcase part of your business as bkbits.net on > IDE disks without RAID. And without clustering in case of emergency. > > Regards > Henning > > > [1] I keep them in an dust free, climate controlled environment (18 > degree centigrade all the time) and they're continously running (no > on-off operations) and they still die. IBM really deserves to suffer > for these disks. The last two died within six hours in the same box > after 20 months of continous running [2]. > > [2] I had the system up and running again 93 minutes after I pulled it > from the rack. Amanda and daily backups saved my ass. :-) And my > applications do not do integrity checks. > > -- > Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Geschaeftsfuehrer > INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH hps@intermeta.de > > Am Schwabachgrund 22 Fon.: 09131 / 50654-0 info@intermeta.de > D-91054 Buckenhof Fax.: 09131 / 50654-20 > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/