Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:48:08 +0100
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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.31 - very swap-happy with plenty of free RAM
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From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
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Hi all,

(please Cc)

Thanks Dan for your email, it was very enlightening!!!

I have seen that post I am replying to:

On Mon, 18 Nov 2009, Dan Merillat wrote:
> 1.7gb of disk cache, 750 meg of free RAM, and it swaps out 300meg in a
> matter of seconds when given access to a swapfile, then thrashes the
> disk like crazy because that RAM was actively in use. From an
> interactivity standpoint the machine is unusable - 1-2 second pauses
> on mouse movement, 10-15 seconds for the window manager to change
> window focus, keypresses take 1-2 seconds to show up, etc.  When I
> issue a swapoff it takes 10-15  minutes for it to slowly pull it all
> back in - once it's done I run fine.


And back in the beginning of October I reported something very similar:


On Mo, 05 Okt 2009, preining wrote:
> I am experiencing IO stalls of real serious dimensions. I mean up to 20secs
> waiting for some operations.
> 
> That normally happeny when I do a svn up on a big subversion repository,
> but even on other locations.
> 
> Yesterday a simple sync took 30sec although I was not doing anything else.


So what normally trashed my system to a quasi halt I tried after a swapoff -a,
*two* svn up of really big repositories (some Gb), plus starting 
VirtualBox Windows XP with 1Gb virtual RAM on a 2Gb machine.

And see hoho, no problem at all. Everything remains responsive and happy.
The memory was never above 60% in use, but 40% in cache, and all 
without any problems.

So that seems to be a real bug.

I am running currently 2.6.32-rc7, but experienced that already in the
31-rc version. Hard to pinpoint exactely where it happens.

If I can run some patches *please* let me know.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Dr. Norbert Preining                                        Associate Professor
JAIST Japan Advanced Institute of Science and Technology   preining@jaist.ac.jp
Vienna University of Technology                               preining@logic.at
Debian Developer (Debian TeX Task Force)                    preining@debian.org
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