Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932182AbZKRVeE (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:34:04 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932114AbZKRVeD (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:34:03 -0500 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:38581 "EHLO cavan.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932103AbZKRVeD (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:34:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:55 +0000 From: Matthew Garrett To: Kay Sievers Cc: David Zeuthen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Message-ID: <20091118213355.GA16630@srcf.ucam.org> References: <1258474180.16176.62.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20091117185742.GA19829@srcf.ucam.org> <20091118194053.GB12944@srcf.ucam.org> <20091118195342.GA13627@srcf.ucam.org> <20091118200712.GA14026@srcf.ucam.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1490 Lines: 35 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:06:33PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: > That's true, but I think there is a significant difference between > polling every one or two seconds for media changes, and usually one or > two minutes for a disk idle. It's not that we poll in a rather hight > frequency, in an arbitrary interval, and check if some condition is > met. My use cases are on the order of a second. > I still don't think that we should add new event interfaces which are > single-subscriber only, and use global values for a specific user. > What if there will be another independent user for this, which might > want a different timeout? They fight over the trigger value to set in > sysfs? You can trivially multiplex without any additional wakeups. Something like devkit-disks can simply trigger on the lowest requested time and then schedule wakeups for subscribers who want a different timeout. > From my perspective, the once-at-timeout wakeup is more acceptable > than an in-kernel policy setting for a single-subscriber event > interface. I'd be open to it being something for multiple subscribers, though that would add to the complexity in the block code and I'm not sure that's needed. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/