Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756944AbZKWLWY (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:22:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756307AbZKWLWX (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:22:23 -0500 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:40889 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755586AbZKWLWX (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:22:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:22:28 +0100 From: Nick Piggin To: Linux Kernel Mailing List , Ingo Molnar , Peter Zijlstra Subject: newidle balancing in NUMA domain? Message-ID: <20091123112228.GA2287@wotan.suse.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1356 Lines: 36 Hi, I wonder why it was decided to do newidle balancing in the NUMA domain? And with newidle_idx == 0 at that. This means that every time the CPU goes idle, every CPU in the system gets a remote cacheline or two hit. Not very nice O(n^2) behaviour on the interconnect. Not to mention trashing our NUMA locality. And then I see some proposal to do ratelimiting of newidle balancing :( Seems like hack upon hack making behaviour much more complex. One "symptom" of bad mutex contention can be that increasing the balancing rate can help a bit to reduce idle time (because it can get the woken thread which is holding a semaphore to run ASAP after we run out of runnable tasks in the system due to them hitting contention on that semaphore). I really hope this change wasn't done in order to help -rt or something sad like sysbench on MySQL. And btw, I'll stay out of mentioning anything about CFS development, but it really sucks to be continually making significant changes to domains balancing *and* per-runqueue scheduling at the same time :( It makes it even difficult to bisect things. Thanks, Nick -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/