Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753841AbZK1Tcn (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:32:43 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753268AbZK1Tcm (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:32:42 -0500 Received: from mail-qy0-f194.google.com ([209.85.221.194]:60829 "EHLO mail-qy0-f194.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751737AbZK1Tcl convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:32:41 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p9PFHP3xa/PLkmdlcTSyY44xvA3YNJ0kmskGEdDT6QWXtEOIVNjW7gPCpHGqW0vhpp ukh3sCJpYylxt3EK1//piCtbs7IAPPa4OYcLj2r/yOTDJMlrzD8kG9Gip+nXPYXUFTw0 32XUQEj3wcA1tJ9elbI27O3s6XvjwNtvsByV0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B117A4C.1070304@s5r6.in-berlin.de> References: <9e4733910911270757j648e39ecl7487b7e6c43db828@mail.gmail.com> <1259370501.11155.14.camel@maxim-laptop> <1259419368.18747.0.camel@maxim-laptop> <1259422559.18747.6.camel@maxim-laptop> <9e4733910911280845y5cf06836l1640e9fc8b1740cf@mail.gmail.com> <1259433959.3658.0.camel@maxim-laptop> <9e4733910911281056s77e9bc8frd9200a81ebab8d7e@mail.gmail.com> <4B117A4C.1070304@s5r6.in-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:32:46 -0500 Message-ID: <9e4733910911281132m5d0cce31t5544c5a6361813bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [RFC] What are the goals for the architecture of an in-kernel IR system? From: Jon Smirl To: Stefan Richter Cc: Maxim Levitsky , Krzysztof Halasa , Christoph Bartelmus , jarod@wilsonet.com, awalls@radix.net, dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, j@jannau.net, jarod@redhat.com, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, mchehab@redhat.com, superm1@ubuntu.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1417 Lines: 30 On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Stefan Richter wrote: > Jon Smirl wrote: >> If these drivers are for specific USB devices it is straight forward >> to turn them into kernel based drivers. If we are going for plug and >> play this needs to happen. All USB device drivers can be implemented >> in user space, but that doesn't mean you want to do that. Putting >> device drivers in the kernel subjects them to code inspection, they >> get shipped everywhere, they autoload when the device is inserted, >> they participate in suspend/resume, etc. > > Huh? ?Userspace implementations /can/ be code-reviewed (but they can't > crash your machine), they /can/ be and are shipped everywhere, they /do/ > auto-load when the device is inserted. ?And if there should be an issue > with power management (is there any?), then improve the ABI and libusb > can surely be improved. ?I don't see why a device with a userspace > driver cannot be included in power management. If you want a micro-kernel there are plenty to pick from. Linux has chosen not to be a micro-kernel. The Linux model is device drivers in the kernel. -- Jon Smirl jonsmirl@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/