Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754169AbZK2E63 (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:58:29 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754113AbZK2E63 (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:58:29 -0500 Received: from mail-gx0-f212.google.com ([209.85.217.212]:59950 "EHLO mail-gx0-f212.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753976AbZK2E61 (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:58:27 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=lfLhUw39rotoD6aCdJVd12flqQG54pGin3xmHxippLHpMVQnBtMEEfOf90Ckit/f/J sCtTbzzTCFJwtNon/WiOweefhNDnTloKsoNyXK0epNlV5IyIpHN64SBjrPt4S3Vir2AA kpekfK6Ji37v4QIAeo+gz01oIPQALyM6kwWyI= Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:58:30 -0800 From: Dmitry Torokhov To: Andy Walls Cc: Jon Smirl , Krzysztof Halasa , Christoph Bartelmus , j@jannau.net, jarod@redhat.com, jarod@wilsonet.com, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, maximlevitsky@gmail.com, mchehab@redhat.com, stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de, superm1@ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [RFC] What are the goals for the architecture of an in-kernel IR system? Message-ID: <20091129045829.GR6936@core.coreip.homeip.net> References: <9e4733910911280906if1191a1jd3d055e8b781e45c@mail.gmail.com> <9e4733910911280937k37551b38g90f4a60b73665853@mail.gmail.com> <1259450815.3137.19.camel@palomino.walls.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1259450815.3137.19.camel@palomino.walls.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1409 Lines: 34 On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 06:26:55PM -0500, Andy Walls wrote: > Jon, > > On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 12:37 -0500, Jon Smirl wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Krzysztof Halasa wrote: > > > Jon Smirl writes: > > > > > >> There are two very basic things that we need to reach consensus on first. > > >> > > >> 1) Unification with mouse/keyboard in evdev - put IR on equal footing. > > The only thing this buys for the user is remote/products bundles that > work out of the box. That can only be a solution for the 80% case. > > I don't hear users crying out "Please integrate IR with the input > system". I do hear users say "I want my remote to work", and "How can I > make my remote work?". Users are not specifically asking for this > integration of IR and the input system - a technical nuance. Right, but if remotes work users did not care if we went through 20 revisions of the interface and how much effort was wasted. When we talking about users here we do talk about application developers mostly, not the consumers. Well, consumers would bennefit of plug and play and proper power management too. -- Dmitry -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/