Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752946AbZK2TDB (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:03:01 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752624AbZK2TDA (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:03:00 -0500 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:44543 "EHLO www.etchedpixels.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752743AbZK2TC7 (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:02:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:04:35 +0000 From: Alan Cox To: Ray Lee Cc: Maxim Levitsky , Andy Walls , Jon Smirl , Krzysztof Halasa , Christoph Bartelmus , dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, j@jannau.net, jarod@redhat.com, jarod@wilsonet.com, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, mchehab@redhat.com, stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de, superm1@ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [RFC] What are the goals for the architecture of an in-kernel IR system? Message-ID: <20091129190435.6500ac84@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <2c0942db0911291052n6e9dd116x943ee636bcf548b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e4733910911280906if1191a1jd3d055e8b781e45c@mail.gmail.com> <9e4733910911280937k37551b38g90f4a60b73665853@mail.gmail.com> <1259469121.3125.28.camel@palomino.walls.org> <20091129124011.4d8a6080@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <1259515703.3284.11.camel@maxim-laptop> <2c0942db0911290949p89ae64bjc3c7501c2de6930c@mail.gmail.com> <20091129181316.7850f33c@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <2c0942db0911291052n6e9dd116x943ee636bcf548b9@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1149 Lines: 23 > Jon is asking for an architecture discussion, y'know, with use cases. > Maxim seems to be saying it's obvious that what we have today works > fine. Except it doesn't appear that we have a consensus that > everything is fine, nor an obvious winner for how to reduce the > complexity here and keep the kernel in a happy, maintainable state for > the long haul. The important point is that this is not an A or B discussion. There are lots of ways to tackle it that are neither. If you look at things like complex video format handling it is done in user space but with an infrastructure to handle it. I don't believe putting it in the kernel is the alternative to the current setup. Cleaning up the way what we have today is presented to applications is perfectly possible without a whole new pile of kernel crap, because evdev was designed sensibly in the first place to allow userspace added events. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/