Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753135AbZK2TQK (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:16:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753070AbZK2TQJ (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:16:09 -0500 Received: from mail-qy0-f194.google.com ([209.85.221.194]:53425 "EHLO mail-qy0-f194.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752986AbZK2TQH (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:16:07 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=NFckhAT2QgfFSzZkPhbeH9i7R1A/tDZ48oDhcRURLFby8io1rFeAOopNBGnk9tay7V WthmNmrbfdGSTPwDI+vEt7TiuR5kESl4YAg1QZng3JKIEfmcwAyk4LntzHM7hbc7/ud8 0g0hDpSBZZMM7xyYmvQpRJP1rO+etl9wSDiP0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20091129190435.6500ac84@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> References: <9e4733910911280937k37551b38g90f4a60b73665853@mail.gmail.com> <1259469121.3125.28.camel@palomino.walls.org> <20091129124011.4d8a6080@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <1259515703.3284.11.camel@maxim-laptop> <2c0942db0911290949p89ae64bjc3c7501c2de6930c@mail.gmail.com> <20091129181316.7850f33c@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <2c0942db0911291052n6e9dd116x943ee636bcf548b9@mail.gmail.com> <20091129190435.6500ac84@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:16:11 -0500 Message-ID: <9e4733910911291116r66dda6dap591d1b0f322f9663@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [RFC] What are the goals for the architecture of an in-kernel IR system? From: Jon Smirl To: Alan Cox Cc: Ray Lee , Maxim Levitsky , Andy Walls , Krzysztof Halasa , Christoph Bartelmus , dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, j@jannau.net, jarod@redhat.com, jarod@wilsonet.com, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, mchehab@redhat.com, stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de, superm1@ubuntu.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1527 Lines: 34 On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Alan Cox wrote: >> Jon is asking for an architecture discussion, y'know, with use cases. >> Maxim seems to be saying it's obvious that what we have today works >> fine. Except it doesn't appear that we have a consensus that >> everything is fine, nor an obvious winner for how to reduce the >> complexity here and keep the kernel in a happy, maintainable state for >> the long haul. > > The important point is that this is not an A or B discussion. There are > lots of ways to tackle it that are neither. If you look at things like > complex video format handling it is done in user space but with an > infrastructure to handle it. > > I don't believe putting it in the kernel is the alternative to the > current setup. Cleaning up the way what we have today is presented to > applications is perfectly possible without a whole new pile of kernel > crap, because evdev was designed sensibly in the first place to allow > userspace added events. So we're just back to the status quo of last year which is to do nothing except some minor clean up. We'll be back here again next year repeating this until IR gets redesigned into something fairly invisible like keyboard and mouse drivers. -- Jon Smirl jonsmirl@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/