Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:45:12 -0500
To: Andy Walls <awalls@radix.net>
Cc: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>, Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>,
       Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@bartelmus.de>, dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com,
       j@jannau.net, jarod@redhat.com, jarod@wilsonet.com,
       linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
       linux-media@vger.kernel.org, maximlevitsky@gmail.com,
       mchehab@redhat.com, stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de, superm1@ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] What are the goals for the architecture of an in-kernel
	IR  system?
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On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 06:26:55PM -0500, Andy Walls wrote:
> The only thing this buys for the user is remote/products bundles that
> work out of the box.  That can only be a solution for the 80% case.
> 
> I don't hear users crying out "Please integrate IR with the input
> system".  I do hear users say "I want my remote to work", and "How can I
> make my remote work?".  Users are not specifically asking for this
> integration of IR and the input system - a technical nuance.  If such a
> tecnical desire-ment drives excessive rework, I doubt anyone will care
> enough about IR to follow through to make a complete system.

Please integrate it so I can stop having issues with the lirc moduels
when going to a new kernel version.

> What does "equal footing" mean as an incentive anyway?  The opportunity
> to reimplement *everything* that exists for IR already over again in
> kernel-space for the sake of developer technical desires?  That's just a
> lot of work for "not invented here" syndrome.  IR transceivers are
> arguably superior to keyboards and mice anyway because they can transmit
> data too.

I have no idea.  I am sure you guys will come up with a great interface.
I just use lirc with my mythtv box.

-- 
Len Sorensen
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