Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:43:41 +0100
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
       lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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       Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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       Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
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       DLE <dle-develop@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip 0/8] perf-probe updates
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* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> One hickup is that -d/--del does not appear to be working yet:
> 
>   # perf probe -l
>   probe:schedule                           (on schedule)
> 
>   # perf probe -d probe:schedule
>   Fatal: Failed to write event: Invalid argument

Ah, that was with an older kernel - a freshly booted kernel with 
delete-probe syntax worked fine.

There's another small hickup i had - when i typoed 'perf probe -', it 
gave me:

 # perf probe -
 No dwarf info found in the vmlinux - please rebuild with CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO.
 An error occurred in debuginfo analysis. Try to use symbols.
   Fatal: Failed to write event: Invalid argument

Similar thing happens if i try to probe a non-existent symbol:

 # perf probe test
 No dwarf info found in the vmlinux - please rebuild with CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO.
 An error occurred in debuginfo analysis. Try to use symbols.
   Fatal: Failed to write event: Invalid argument

I think we should print something more helpful, such as:

 # perf probe test
 Fatal: Kernel symbol 'test' not found - probe not added.

the debuginfo printout is not helpful in this case - we should fall back 
to symbols silently, unless the nature of the error indicates that we 
fail _because_ there's no debuginfo.

Here the failure was because the symbol does not exist.

There's similar problems in most other failure cases. Trying to remove a 
non-existent probe gives:

 # perf probe -d test
 Warning: event "probe:test" is not found.

It should say something like:

 # perf probe -d test
 Info: event "probe:test" does not exist, could not remove it.

Also, it's possible to add multiple probes to the same function, using 
'perf probe schedule' + 'perf probe schedule', etc. While in general it 
makes sense to allow it, by default we should refuse the second, 
identical probe on the symbol - and add a -f/--force option to force 
duplicate probes. I.e. the second probe should print:

 # perf probe schedule
 Info: event "probe:schedule" already exists. (Use -f to force a duplicate.)

etc. Please try out various sensible and also less sensible options of 
this tool and try to make it break - and see whether the behavior is 
intuitive and obvious to users - whether the messages are consistent, 
etc. etc.

	Ingo
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