Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757942AbZLJUfF (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:35:05 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756442AbZLJUfE (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:35:04 -0500 Received: from mail-yx0-f187.google.com ([209.85.210.187]:56520 "EHLO mail-yx0-f187.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754429AbZLJUfC (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:35:02 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ifl1sJfxm2WetoHAilUdpQNkk4K0twHO4KiLvxu/mVZi4KeaXuWEIJ3GsMxFmQ7FAx +egVymyEU4HJrPeIitfG8JCcfecEwLFqDFDsMOZn0H19CnALmsgCbvY5becPiCgT128z OmUWQ9BSm+R9LYeP0unKDZueWNICGQeLWEwm8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20091210214948.3d3c958c@daedalus.pq.iki.fi> References: <1260459601.18520.26.camel@skunk> <6d4bc9fc0912100940l1d2954d0k187ae54bf44a23f5@mail.gmail.com> <20091210214948.3d3c958c@daedalus.pq.iki.fi> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:35:08 -0500 Message-ID: <8e6f94720912101235l30d05c03m54b769d9fd6ac35d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [git pull] drm From: Will Dyson To: Pekka Paalanen Cc: Linus Torvalds , Dave Airlie , Xavier Bestel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.sf.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1536 Lines: 34 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > The big question is what we call ctxprogs: binary blobs that are > clearly executable, running somewhere in the GPU. No-one seems > to know, if those are copyrightable, or if they can be redistributed. > In their current form, they have been recorded from the nvidia > proprietary driver using mmiotrace, and copied verbatim for each > card type. > > Would you be willing to pull that kind of stuff into Linux? > > I would not even dare sending them to the Linux firmware > repository, since they have some license requirements, too. This seems similar to the unfortunate situation with the b43 wireless card firmware. Broadcom refuses to provide the firmware under a redistributable license (or even as files separate from their proprietary drivers). This did not stop b43 from being included in Linux. Distributions have dealt with it by providing a script that downloads the proprietary driver and extracts the firmware from it to files in /lib/firmware. Do you think that a similar solution for nouveau would be legally problematic? Or is the issue technical, since you mention that the ctxprogs were obtained by mmiotrace, instead of a more straightforward extraction from the binary driver blobs? -- Will Dyson -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/