From: "M. Edward Borasky" <znmeb@aracnet.com>
To: "Rick A. Hohensee" <rickh@Capaccess.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: Forth interpreter as kernel module
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 21:10:58 -0800
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of Rick A. Hohensee
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:22 PM
> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Forth interpreter as kernel module

> Phil Burk is I believe still affiliated with Mills College. He'd love to
> hear about this. Mike Haas too, probably. Mike Haas wrote the kernel of
> Amiga JForth and Phil wrote all the music stuff. I added all the Linux
> syscalls to the PForth in cLIeNUX mostly out of nostalgia for JForth, a
> "...once in a paradigm thing." Jack "jax" Woehr (sp?). Phil was quite
> pleased to hear there's a PForth out there with 160 Linux syscalls as
> primitives.

Yes, Phil Burk is still doing music ... no, he's not doing it in Forth, but
in Java. Hunt up "jmsl" and "jsyn" for the details. I haven't heard much
from Jack recently; I have his book which had an ANS-ish 16-bit DOS Forth on
a floppy. At one time, I was doing some absolutely *amazing* things with
16-bit Forths on my HP100LX Palmtop PC. Still, I must confess I haven't been
to the Taygeta Scientific Forth archive in over a year.

> More to the point, Forth can be a great personalizer of unix/Linux. Sure,
> you don't want a Forth in your DNS box. (I do, but...) You do want a Forth
> in your multimedia box. Bigtime. Which is why the "forth" command in
> cLIeNUX is upforth, PForth with a unix Jones.

Well, I want a full-strength Forth in my Linux box -- I've got SwiftForth
Pro on my Windows system and I'm holding out for something of that
comprehensive nature on Linux. I have to admit I haven't played with the
gForth that I think comes with my Red Hat distro, so I don't know what it's
like. I've heard hard-core Forthers gag profusely at the mere mention of
gForth.

So, enough "old Forthers home week" on the Linux kernel mailing list, eh?

: TOOT FORTH LOVE IF HONK THEN ;
--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, Chief Scientist, Borasky Research
http://www.borasky-research.net  http://www.aracnet.com/~znmeb
mailto:znmeb@borasky-research.net  mailto:znmeb@aracnet.com

Q. Who invented the non-Von Neumann computer architecture?
A. John non-Von Neumann.


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