Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 02:05:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 02:05:39 -0400 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]:24211 "EHLO mailout02.sul.t-online.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 02:05:37 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Oliver Neukum To: Richard Gooch , nahshon@actcom.co.il Subject: Re: faster boots? Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 08:02:58 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: Pavel Machek , Benjamin LaHaise , Alan Cox , Andrew Morton , joeja@mindspring.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <200204080048.g380mt514749@lmail.actcom.co.il> <200204080057.g380vbO00868@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-ID: <16uSEQ-1XziYCC@fmrl04.sul.t-online.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > and spin-up on any operation that writes to the disk (and block that > > operation). > > Absolutely not! I don't want my writes to spin up the drive. Even if you sync ? > > The opposite to that (which I do not like) processes create as many > > dirty buffers as they want and disk spins up only on sync() or when > > the system is starving for usable memory. > > Maybe you don't like that, but many of us with laptops prefer that > behaviour. And for many reasons, it is definately the correct > behaviour. You are definitely right. I'd even wish for swapping out stuff and doing a drastic read ahead before spinning down. > > An aletrnate ides (more drastic) is that fle systems can mount > > internally read-only when a disk is spinned-down. Means - you cannot > > spin down when there is a file handle open for writing. Other than > > this there are advantages. > > Undesirable behaviour. Absolutely. One disk is typical and log files will be open. Regards Oliver - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/