Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755980AbZLUQmo (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:42:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753797AbZLUQmn (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:42:43 -0500 Received: from cobra.newdream.net ([66.33.216.30]:49700 "EHLO cobra.newdream.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753074AbZLUQmm (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:42:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:42:42 -0800 (PST) From: Sage Weil To: Andi Kleen cc: Jim Garlick , Linus Torvalds , Gregory Haskins , Andrew Morton , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Ceph distributed file system client for 2.6.33 In-Reply-To: <87ws0jtegi.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> Message-ID: References: <20091218231505.GA21371@llnl.gov> <87ws0jtegi.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1644 Lines: 37 On Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Andi Kleen wrote: > Jim Garlick writes: > > > > Ceph is new and experimental so you're not going to see production shops > > One issue with ceph is that I'm not sure it has any users at all. > The mailing list seems to be pretty much dead? > On a philosophical area I agree that network file systems are > definitely an area that could need some more improvements. The list is slow. The developers all work in the same office, so most of the technical discussion ends up face to face (we're working on moving more of it to the list). I also tend to send users actively testing it to the irc channel. That said, there aren't many active users. I see lots of interested people lurking on the list and 'waiting for stability,' but I think the prospect of testing an unstable cluster fs is much more daunting than a local one. If you want stability, then it's probably too early to merge. If you want active users, that essentially hinges on stability too. But if it's interest in/demand for an alternative distributed fs, then the sooner it's merged the better. >From my point of view merging now will be a bit rockier with coordinating releases, bug fixes, and dealing with any unforseen client side changes, but I think it'll be worth it. OTOH, another release cycle will bring greater stability and better first impressions. sage -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/