From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Sergei Trofimovich <slyich@gmail.com>,
       Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
       Sergei Trofimovich <slyfox@inbox.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Kbuild: set LC_MESSAGES=C (as LC_CTYPE=C is)
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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:58:28 -0800
In-Reply-To: <4B356730.2080401@zytor.com> (H. Peter Anvin's message of "Fri,
	25 Dec 2009 17:30:24 -0800")
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 > > Seems unfortunate to lose localized error messages.  (Although in my
 > > en_US.UTF-8 case, all I get is non-ASCII quote characters)

 > The whole problem is that for some people we lose *all* messages.  This
 > seems all very strange to me at all, but I guess it tweaks some internal
 > detail inside the glibc message library, sigh.

I just meant that people used to be able to get localized error messages
by setting LANG or whatever.  And now they're stuck with ASCII english.

 > > This all started because of the awk invocation in arch/x86/lib.  Maybe
 > > the best idea would be to confine the locale monkeying to that one
 > > place?

 > Except that sed, etc. and even the shell itself have the same class of
 > problems.  Perl doesn't, since it has saner rules for how regular
 > expressions handle ranges.

But pretty much everyone on a modern distro has had a UTF8 locale for
quite a while.  And as far as I know there have been no problems caused
by collation order or anything else.  So this change to always build in
the C locale is just worrying about theoretical problems.

Anyway, not a big deal I guess.

 - R.
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