Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:44:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:44:28 -0400 Received: from warden-p.diginsite.com ([208.29.163.248]:65468 "HELO warden.diginsite.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:44:27 -0400 From: David Lang To: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Kernel developer attitudes, a problem to watch for. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org My post was intended to make people realize how ti fit into the existing structure, I am not saying that the structure is fundmentally broken and needs to be scrapped. the fundamental existing process has been far more sucessful then the more formal procedures that are allocated, people just need to realize what is going on and not expect things to happen that won't. David Lang On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:02:46 -0700 (PDT) > From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" > To: David Lang > Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: Kernel developer attitudes, a problem to watch for. > > On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, David Lang wrote: > > [soapbox snipped] > > In the absence of > > a. A formal software development process, > > b. Formal requirements documents, > > c. A high-level formal design document, > > d. Marketing and sales, > > e. A formal Quality Assurance, Security Assurance and Performance > Assurance effort, > > f. A corporate structure, > > etc. ... > > I don't think it's reasonable to expect people to behave in a different > manner from the way they currently behave. I've heard this described as > a brutal meritocracy, and organizations that need any of the above to > meet their objectives are free to implement them at their own cost and > to their own (and presumably their customers') benefit. > > That said, I think Linux could benefit greatly from some of the above, > in particular c. and e. And the recent debate over printk vs. event logs > would be a non-issue if we had b. and d. -- we'd have both because one > is wonderful for rapid debugging and the other is wonderful for system > administration. > -- > M. Edward Borasky > znmeb@borasky-research.net > > The COUGAR Project > http://www.borasky-research.com/Cougar.htm > > If God had meant carrots to be eaten cooked, He would have given rabbits > fire. > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/