Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:01:02 +0800
From: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
To: Corrado Zoccolo <czoccolo@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
       "jens.axboe@oracle.com" <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
       "Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC]cfq-iosched: quantum check tweak
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On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 04:22:47AM +0800, Corrado Zoccolo wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 05:44:27AM +0800, Corrado Zoccolo wrote:
> >> Hi Shahoua,
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 17:02 +0800, Corrado Zoccolo wrote:
> >> >> Hi Shaohua,
> >> >> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com> wrote:
> >> >> > On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 05:44:40PM +0800, Corrado Zoccolo wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Currently a queue can only dispatch up to 4 requests if there are other queues.
> >> >> >> > This isn't optimal, device can handle more requests, for example, AHCI can
> >> >> >> > handle 31 requests. I can understand the limit is for fairness, but we could
> >> >> >> > do some tweaks:
> >> >> >> > 1. if the queue still has a lot of slice left, sounds we could ignore the limit
> >> >> >> ok. You can even scale the limit proportionally to the remaining slice
> >> >> >> (see below).
> >> >> > I can't understand the meaning of below scale. cfq_slice_used_soon() means
> >> >> > dispatched requests can finish before slice is used, so other queues will not be
> >> >> > impacted. I thought/hope a cfq_slice_idle time is enough to finish the
> >> >> > dispatched requests.
> >> >> cfq_slice_idle is 8ms, that is the average time to complete 1 request
> >> >> on most disks. If you have more requests dispatched on a
> >> >> NCQ-rotational disk (non-RAID), it will take more time. Probably a
> >> >> linear formula is not the most accurate, but still more accurate than
> >> >> taking just 1 cfq_slice_idle. If you can experiment a bit, you could
> >> >> also try:
> >> >> ?cfq_slice_idle * ilog2(nr_dispatched+1)
> >> >> ?cfq_slice_idle * (1<<(ilog2(nr_dispatched+1)>>1))
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 2. we could keep the check only when cfq_latency is on. For uses who don't care
> >> >> >> > about latency should be happy to have device fully piped on.
> >> >> >> I wouldn't overload low_latency with this meaning. You can obtain the
> >> >> >> same by setting the quantum to 32.
> >> >> > As this impact fairness, so natually thought we could use low_latency. I'll remove
> >> >> > the check in next post.
> >> >> Great.
> >> >> >> > I have a test of random direct io of two threads, each has 32 requests one time
> >> >> >> > without patch: 78m/s
> >> >> >> > with tweak 1: 138m/s
> >> >> >> > with two tweaks and disable latency: 156m/s
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Please, test also with competing seq/random(depth1)/async workloads,
> >> >> >> and measure also introduced latencies.
> >> >> > depth1 should be ok, as if device can only send one request, it should not require
> >> >> > more requests from ioscheduler.
> >> >> I mean have a run with, at the same time:
> >> >> * one seq reader,
> >> >> * h random readers with depth 1 (non-aio)
> >> >> * one async seq writer
> >> >> * k random readers with large depth.
> >> >> In this way, you can see if the changes you introduce to boost your
> >> >> workload affect more realistic scenarios, in which various workloads
> >> >> are mixed.
> >> >> I explicitly add the depth1 random readers, since they are sceduled
> >> >> differently than the large (>4) depth ones.
> >> > I tried a fio script which does like your description, but the data
> >> > isn't stable, especially the write speed, other kind of io speed is
> >> > stable. Apply below patch doesn't make things worse (still write speed
> >> > isn't stable, other io is stable), so I can't say if the patch passes
> >> > the test, but it appears latency reported by fio hasn't change. I adopt
> >> > the slice_idle * dispatched approach, which I thought should be safe.
> >>
> >> I'm doing some tests right now on a single ncq rotational disk, and
> >> the average service time when submitting with a high depth is halved
> >> w.r.t. depth 1, so I think you could test also with the formula :
> >> slice_idle * dispatched / 2. It should give a performance boost,
> >> without noticeable impact on latency
> > Thanks for looking at it. can you forward your tests to me so I can
> > check here?
> Sure, you can find them at:
> * simple seek time: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3525644/stride.c
> * avg seek time with NCQ: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3525644/ncq.c
> > I'll do more aggressive formula next. It shouldn't impact
> > my SSD which is very fast, each request takes less than 1ms. We'd better
> > have a mechanism to measure device speed, but jiffies isn't good. I'm thinking
> > using sched_clock() which has its issue too like having drift between CPUs.
> I'm using ktime_get() successfully. Measuring is the easy part. The
> difficult one is decide what to do with the value :)
BTW, is ktime_get() light enough for a 40k/s call? I thought we should have a very
light clock for counting.

Thanks,
Shaohua
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