Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751644Ab0AKGhM (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:37:12 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751108Ab0AKGhL (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:37:11 -0500 Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com ([141.146.126.233]:42634 "EHLO acsinet11.oracle.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751387Ab0AKGhK (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:37:10 -0500 To: Andreas Dilger Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" , Karel Zak , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, util-linux-ng@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng v2.17 (stable) From: "Martin K. Petersen" Organization: Oracle References: <20100108093302.GS1969@nb.net.home> <4B47A713.9060405@zytor.com> <329167C1-CF54-4742-B0B7-AD0B9DEFDEC1@sun.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:36:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <329167C1-CF54-4742-B0B7-AD0B9DEFDEC1@sun.com> (Andreas Dilger's message of "Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:40:33 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Source-IP: acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4B4AC6FB.00DC:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1087 Lines: 24 >>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Dilger writes: Andreas> I agree whole heartedly. We steer users very sharply away from Andreas> using partitions at all, because on h/w RAID devices the Andreas> 512-byte offset from fdisk completely kills RAID-5/6 Andreas> performance. I don't have a problem aligning to 1MB (taking alignment_offset into account) by default but there needs to be an easy override. There are RAID arrays that internally compensate for the legacy 63 sector offset and we'll cause misalignment if we start at 1MB on those. I'm heavily lobbying our storage partners to make sure they fill out the right SCSI bits if their LUNs are not naturally aligned. But there are obviously going to be legacy devices out there that will need manual alignment compensation. -- Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/