Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752018Ab0AKH1c (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jan 2010 02:27:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751324Ab0AKH1b (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jan 2010 02:27:31 -0500 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:37646 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751105Ab0AKH1b (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jan 2010 02:27:31 -0500 Message-ID: <4B4AD2CE.8040207@zytor.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:27:10 -0800 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091209 Fedora/3.0-3.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Martin K. Petersen" CC: Andreas Dilger , Karel Zak , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, util-linux-ng@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng v2.17 (stable) References: <20100108093302.GS1969@nb.net.home> <4B47A713.9060405@zytor.com> <329167C1-CF54-4742-B0B7-AD0B9DEFDEC1@sun.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1287 Lines: 32 On 01/10/2010 10:36 PM, Martin K. Petersen wrote: >>>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Dilger writes: > > Andreas> I agree whole heartedly. We steer users very sharply away from > Andreas> using partitions at all, because on h/w RAID devices the > Andreas> 512-byte offset from fdisk completely kills RAID-5/6 > Andreas> performance. > > I don't have a problem aligning to 1MB (taking alignment_offset into > account) by default but there needs to be an easy override. There are > RAID arrays that internally compensate for the legacy 63 sector offset > and we'll cause misalignment if we start at 1MB on those. > > I'm heavily lobbying our storage partners to make sure they fill out the > right SCSI bits if their LUNs are not naturally aligned. But there are > obviously going to be legacy devices out there that will need manual > alignment compensation. > Yes, but we shouldn't default to braindead mode. -hpa -- H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/