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Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng v2.17 (stable)
From: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Reply-To: dedekind1@gmail.com
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
       util-linux-ng@vger.kernel.org
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:17:28 +0200
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On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 15:05 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Fri 2010-01-08 13:43:47, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > On 01/08/2010 01:33 AM, Karel Zak wrote:
> > > 
> > > fdisk:
> > >    - the fdisk command aligns newly created partitions to minimum_io_size
> > >      boundary ("minimum_io_size" is physical sector size or stripe chunk
> > >      size on RAIDs).
> > > 
> > >    - the fdisk command supports disks with alignment_offset now.
> > > 
> > 
> > I think we should align, by default, much more aggressively than that --
> > because frequently we just don't know what the real physical alignment
> > is (think of flash media, which uses large erase blocks underneath.)
> 
> Flash has special mapping layer, and does not care (SD/MMC), or is a
> raw nand and can't be used as block device (smartmedia).

MMC does care, and we measured it, non-4KiB aligned writes were
noticeably slower on real eMMC and some MMC cards. I cannot remember the
numbers, but I vaguely recall something like 11%.

So the first statement is incorrect. It really does matter. E.g., we
observed that FAT FS was slower if the partition did not start from 4KiB
boundary.

-- 
Best Regards,
Artem Bityutskiy (Артём Битюцкий)

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