Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754187Ab0ALQVK (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:21:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754037Ab0ALQVJ (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:21:09 -0500 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:45447 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754120Ab0ALQVH (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:21:07 -0500 Message-ID: <4B4CA157.8060906@zytor.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:20:39 -0800 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091209 Fedora/3.0-3.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?SsO2cm4gRW5nZWw=?= CC: Pavel Machek , Karel Zak , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, util-linux-ng@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng v2.17 (stable) References: <20100108093302.GS1969@nb.net.home> <4B47A713.9060405@zytor.com> <20100111140255.GA1416@ucw.cz> <20100112071931.GA18822@logfs.org> <4B4C308C.6020804@zytor.com> <20100112093755.GB18822@logfs.org> In-Reply-To: <20100112093755.GB18822@logfs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1012 Lines: 24 On 01/12/2010 01:37 AM, Jörn Engel wrote: > On Tue, 12 January 2010 00:19:24 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: >> >> I believe for Smartmedia the FTL is done host side, but that there is a >> standard-specified FTL (called CIS, Card Information System.) > > A CIS block/page is part of the FTL design. Not sure whether it also > lends its name to it. I'll just take your word for it. > > Whether the FTL is done host side depends on the card reader and your > definition of host side. Most old card readers implemented it in the > driver, but some newer ones prefer to export a usb mass storage > interface, thereby not requiring any driver CD. > "Host side" in this case means "not on the card". The electrical interface to Smartmedia is, indeed, raw NAND. -hpa -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/