Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:22:51 +0100
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Security: Implement disablenetwork semantics. (v4)
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> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:59:27 +0100, Pavel Machek said:
> 
> > Well, maybe, but mailer system where first user starts is as a daemon
> > makes sense...
> 
> Does it?  How do you get port 25 open for listening if the first user isn't
> root?  Most *actual* schemes to "launch at first use" that require privs for
> something have used inetd or similar - that program exists for a
> *reason*.

Remember sendmail is setuid root... so it already has the permissions.

Except that proposed disablenetwork would take network connectivity
even from setuid apps.
									Pavel
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