Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753077Ab0ANOae (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:30:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752358Ab0ANOad (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:30:33 -0500 Received: from taverner.CS.Berkeley.EDU ([128.32.153.193]:43548 "EHLO taverner.cs.berkeley.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752312Ab0ANOad (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:30:33 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Path: not-for-mail From: daw@cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) Newsgroups: isaac.lists.linux-kernel Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Security: Implement disablenetwork semantics. (v4) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: References: <20100110215848.GA26609@elf.ucw.cz> <20100112075927.GA24256@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <20100114092250.GA11500@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> Reply-To: daw-news@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) NNTP-Posting-Host: taverner.cs.berkeley.edu X-Trace: taverner.cs.berkeley.edu 1263479430 18420 128.32.153.193 (14 Jan 2010 14:30:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:30:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: daw@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 975 Lines: 17 Pavel Machek wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:59:27 +0100, Pavel Machek said: >> > Well, maybe, but mailer system where first user starts is as a daemon >> > makes sense... >> >> Does it? How do you get port 25 open for listening if the first user isn't >> root? Most *actual* schemes to "launch at first use" that require privs for >> something have used inetd or similar - that program exists for a >> *reason*. > >Remember sendmail is setuid root... so it already has the permissions. sendmail hasn't been setuid root on my system for (what feels like) a long time; rather, it is setgid to a special group. $ ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail.sendmail -rwxr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 841528 2008-03-29 05:27 /usr/sbin/sendmail.sendmail* -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/