Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751112Ab0AZAJx (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:09:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750833Ab0AZAJw (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:09:52 -0500 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:50710 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750773Ab0AZAJw (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:09:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:07:21 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds X-X-Sender: torvalds@localhost.localdomain To: Renzo Davoli cc: Mark Wielaard , Stephen Rothwell , Kyle Moffett , tytso@mit.edu, Peter Zijlstra , Peter Zijlstra , Fr??d??ric Weisbecker , Oleg Nesterov , Steven Rostedt , LKML , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , "Frank Ch. Eigler" , linux-next@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" , utrace-devel@redhat.com, Thomas Gleixner Subject: Re: linux-next: add utrace tree In-Reply-To: <20100126000237.GA15936@cs.unibo.it> Message-ID: References: <20100123112333.GA15455@elte.hu> <20100123114729.GA7828@redhat.com> <20100123194820.GM21263@thunk.org> <20100125170254.GB22862@redhat.com> <1264451453.3028.59.camel@springer.wildebeest.org> <20100126000237.GA15936@cs.unibo.it> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LFD 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 858 Lines: 24 On Tue, 26 Jan 2010, Renzo Davoli wrote: > > The solution is that everybody can code his/her optimized kernel/user > interface for tracing in his/her kernel module, i.e. utrace. I don't think people understand. That is simply not a "solution". That is a PROBLEM. The thing you describe is an absolute disaster. Which is exactly why I rant against it. The last thing we want to have is "here, take this, and make your own kernel module mess around it optimized for your particular crazy scenario". But every SINGLE post in this thread that has argued for utrace has argued exactly this way. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/