Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753859Ab0AZClN (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:41:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753575Ab0AZClL (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:41:11 -0500 Received: from fgwmail7.fujitsu.co.jp ([192.51.44.37]:54530 "EHLO fgwmail7.fujitsu.co.jp" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751314Ab0AZClK (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:41:10 -0500 X-SecurityPolicyCheck-FJ: OK by FujitsuOutboundMailChecker v1.3.1 From: KOSAKI Motohiro To: Darren Hart Subject: Re: futex() on vdso makes process unkillable Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, Peter Zijlstra , Mark Seaborn , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner , "hugh.dickins" In-Reply-To: <4B5DD6DF.4090102@us.ibm.com> References: <1264411574.4283.1632.camel@laptop> <4B5DD6DF.4090102@us.ibm.com> Message-Id: <20100126113312.5AA3.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.50.07 [ja] Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:41:05 +0900 (JST) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2615 Lines: 59 > Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 16:27 +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: > > >> Futex should work both file anon anon. however I personally think > >> vdso is not file nor anon. it is special mappings. nobody defined > >> futex spec on special mappings. (yes, undefined). > >> > >> Personally, I think EINVAL or EFAULT are best result of vdso futexing, like as > >> futexing againt kernel address. but I guess another person have another thinking. > >> > >> I'd like to hear futex folks's opinion. > > > > Well, my opinion is we should remove the vdso, its ugly as hell :-) > > > > But I think it would make most sense to extend its definition in the > > direction of it being a file (for all intents and purposes its a special > > DSO -- which unfortunately isn't present in any filesystem). > > > > [ For all intents and purposes processes can already communicate through > > futexes on the libc space, so being able to do so through the vsdo > > really doesn't add anything ] > > > > So the problem is that the VDSO pages do not have a page->mapping > > because they lack the actual filesystem part of files, so even if (with > > the recent zero-page patch from Kosaki-san) you make private COWs of the > > VDSO, you'll get stuck in that loop. > > > > So the prettiest solution is to simply place the vdso in an actual > > filesystem and slowly migrate towards letting userspace map it as a > > regular DSO -- /sys/lib{32,64}/libkernel.so like. > > > > [ that has the bonus of getting rid of install_special_mapping() ] > > > > The ugly solution is special casing the vdso in get_futex_key(). > > I like the creating-a-real-file solution. However, for now (and for > stable), I think Kosaki's suggestion of EINVAL or EFAULT is a good > stop-gap. EINVAL might play the best with existing glibc implementations. May I confirm your mention? If we can accept EFAULT, we don't need any change. my previous futex patch already did. because 1) VDSO is alwasys read-only mapped 2) write mode get_user_pages_fast() against read-only pte/vma return EFAULT. Current linus and stable tree don't cause Mark's original problem. instead, just return EFAULT. (Well, I'm sorry. my previous mail was unclear. I wrote v2.6.31 test result) If you can't accept EFAULT, we need to add vdso specific logic into get_futex_key(). Is this your intention? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/