Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 02:52:21 -0800
From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] %pd - for printing dentry name
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On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 07:09:08AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 10:53:41PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> 
> > Here is an approximation that might inspire someone to come up with a
> > real solution.
> > 
> > One approach would be to store the name length with the name, so that
> > struct qstr loses the "len" field, and so that its "name" field points
> > to a struct that has a "len" field followed by an array of const
> > unsigned char.  That way, the name and length are closely associated.
> > When you pick up a struct qstr's "name" pointer, you are guaranteed to
> > get a length that matches the name.
> > 
> > Unfortunately:
> > 
> > o	In theory, this leaves the length of the dentry unchanged, but
> > 	alignment is a problem on 64-bit systems.  Also, the long names
> > 	gain an extra four bytes.
> 
> That one is not a big deal.

K.

> > o	If you get a pointer to the d_iname small-name field, rename
> > 	might still change the name out from under you.  This could in
> > 	theory be fixed by refusing to re-use the d_iname field until
> > 	an RCU grace period had elapsed (using an external structure
> > 	instead).  In practice, not sure if this is really a reasonable
> > 	approach.
> 
> That, OTOH, is - most of dentries use inline name and external one is
> really a rarely used fallback.  Making it a common case isn't nice.

It is possible to move it back inline after a grace period, so that the
external name would be in use for only a few milliseconds after the
rename, but that of course adds more complexity.

> There's another practical problem - a lot of code uses qstr fields and
> patch will be painful; I couldn't care less about the out-of-tree code,
> but it's a flagday change and in-tree patch size is not something to
> sneeze at - I've been crawling through all that code for the last couple
> of days and there's a lot of it.

Indeed!!!

> Trying to play with seqlock-based solutions sounds more promising; I've
> missed it completely and I'm half-asleep right now, so I'll try to take
> a look at that after I get some sleep.

Certainly sounds worth a try.

							Thanx, Paul
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