Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:49:38 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:49:37 -0400 Received: from vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca ([136.159.55.21]:41095 "EHLO vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:49:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 08:49:21 -0600 Message-Id: <200204181449.g3IEnLE12555@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> From: Richard Gooch To: Neil Brown Cc: Mike Fedyk , Andreas Dilger , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RAID superblock confusion In-Reply-To: <15550.11818.429509.22486@notabene.cse.unsw.edu.au> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Neil Brown writes: > On Wednesday April 17, mfedyk@matchmail.com wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 11:54:13AM +1000, Neil Brown wrote: > > > On Saturday April 13, rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca wrote: > > > > If there was only a "do as I say, regardless" mode, I would be happy. > > > > This programmer-knows-best attitude smacks of M$. > > > > > > mdadm will do as you say, reguardless - if you ask it to. Have you > > > tried mdadm? > > > http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~neilb/source/mdadm/ > > > > Niel, do you plan to merge mdadm into the raidtools package? It sounds like > > it belongs there. > > No. > If distributions want to distribute mdadm together with the stuff from > raidtools, then that is up to them. > But from a development perspective, I don't see any value in making a > single source distribution. But from a user perspective, it's a pain the in ass to have to download yet another package to do what raidtools do, just do it properly. And having multiple packages doing nearly the same thing is really confusing. Users won't know which one to pick. Every wanker out there wants to write their own cool tool, and since sound and graphics are both l33t, why not do both at once? The result is that we have (to name one example) a plethora of audio mixer control tools. Since I'm not in the "in crowd", and I just want a tool that lets me frob the mixer, I wasted lots of time downloading many different tools, reading the README's and compiling ones that didn't depend on some bloated library (glibc, KDE or Gnome). Then waste more time finding out which ones actually worked properly. If resources were pooled, rather than all this ego stroking, we might have something that (most importantly) works, is lightweight and is usable for everyone, not just the users of the One True Desktop[R]. Please let's just have one set of MD utilities. Regards, Richard.... Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au Current: rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/