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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:16:06 +0100
From: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Restrict initial stack space expansion to rlimit
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On 02/10/2010 06:31 AM, Michael Neuling wrote:
> In message<20100210141016.4D18.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>  you wrote:
>>> On 02/09/2010 10:51 PM, Michael Neuling wrote:
>>>>>> I'd still like someone with a CONFIG_STACK_GROWSUP arch to test/ACK it
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's only one CONFIG_GROWSUP arch - parisc.
>>>>> Could someone please test it on parisc?
>>>
>>> I did.
>>>
>>>> How about doing:
>>>>     'ulimit -s 15; ls'
>>>> before and after the patch is applied.  Before it's applied, 'ls' should
>>>> be killed.  After the patch is applied, 'ls' should no longer be killed.
>>>>
>>>> I'm suggesting a stack limit of 15KB since it's small enough to trigger
>>>> 20*PAGE_SIZE.  Also 15KB not a multiple of PAGE_SIZE, which is a trickier
>>>> case to handle correctly with this code.
>>>>
>>>> 4K pages on parisc should be fine to test with.
>>>
>>> Mikey, thanks for the suggested test plan.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if your patch does it correct for parisc/stack-grows-up-case.
>>>
>>> I tested your patch on  a 4k pages kernel:
>>> root@c3000:~# uname -a
>>> Linux c3000 2.6.33-rc7-32bit #221 Tue Feb 9 23:17:06 CET 2010 parisc GNU/Li
> nux
>>>
>>> Without your patch:
>>> root@c3000:~# ulimit -s 15; ls
>>> Killed
>>> ->  correct.
>>>
>>> With your patch:
>>> root@c3000:~# ulimit -s 15; ls
>>> Killed
>>> _or_:
>>> root@c3000:~# ulimit -s 15; ls
>>> Segmentation fault
>>> ->  ??
>>>
>>> Any idea?
>>
>> My x86_64 box also makes segmentation fault. I think "ulimit -s 15" is too sm
> all stack for ls.
>> "ulimit -s 27; ls "  wroks perfectly fine.
>
> Arrh.  I asked Helge offline earlier to check what use to work on parisc
> on 2.6.31.
>
> I guess PPC has a nice clean non-bloated ABI :-D

Hi Mikey,

I tested again, and it works for me with "ulimit -s 27" as well (on a 4k, 32bit kernel).
Still, I'm not 100%  sure if your patch is correct.
Anyway, it seems to work.

But what makes me wonder is, why EXTRA_STACK_VM_PAGES is defined in pages at all.
You wrote in your patch description:
> This bug means that when limiting the stack to less the 20*PAGE_SIZE (eg.
> 80K on 4K pages or 'ulimit -s 79') all processes will be killed before
> they start.  This is particularly bad with 64K pages, where a ulimit below
> 1280K will kill every process.

Wouldn't it make sense to define and use EXTRA_STACK_VM_SIZE instead (e.g. as 20*4096 = 80k)?
This extra stack reservation should IMHO be independend of the actual kernel page size.

Helge
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