Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:20:04 +0100
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>, lasse.collin@tukaani.org,
       linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, mirrors@kernel.org,
       users@kernel.org, "FTPAdmin Kernel.org" <ftpadmin@kernel.org>,
       Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] XZ Migration discussion
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Hi!

> > > It's probably worth keeping things like the .gz files around, if nothing
> > > else for older distros, systems, etc that don't have xz yet (since it's
> > > still relatively new)
> > 
> > Hardly a good reason IMHO. xz can be installed on these systems. When
> > we switched to git, nobody had it and it did not stop us.
> 
> I don't agree, it's different. Git is only used by developers, and even
> not all of them. Sources are a reference. Anyone can download them to
> look for anything. Switching to a specific format which really is not
> common at all on older distros nor on any system looks a bit like
> proprietary encoding eventhough it's not the case. But it's a way to
> tell people that if they want the sources in clear text form, they
> first have to find a tool capable of decompressing them. Gzip is well
> defined as a standard, it's even described in an RFC and is present
> on almost any system (unix or not) now. Any student who wants to take
> a look at the kernel will have access to gunzip, even from an old
> Solaris 8 workstation or a Windows XP desktop PC. XZ if far from
> being there, and the student will not necessarily be able to install
> it. And Peter raised some valid points about the hardware requirements
> to run such tools ; I'm not sure the guys running Linux on their old
> Sparc-2 would like XZ only a lot.

It is not just student on old workstation. I'm trying to keep Linux
working on spitz PDA and kohjinsha subnotebook. Especially zaurus has
about power of old sparc two... otoh it runs 4 hours on cellphone
battery.
									Pavel
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