Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752899Ab0BNTeN (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:34:13 -0500 Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:44781 "EHLO out2.smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751396Ab0BNTeL (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:34:11 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: t2G3ZwlWeG+QgKgquabboKOdmdzSD9fWL0cVbfkxlFsK 1266176049 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:34:06 -0200 From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh To: Michael Evans Cc: Volker Armin Hemmann , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux mdadm superblock question. Message-ID: <20100214193406.GA15722@khazad-dum.debian.net> References: <201002140251.59668.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <4877c76c1002132002s20d942c3i7cee5418cdcf369c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4877c76c1002132002s20d942c3i7cee5418cdcf369c@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1024D/1CDB0FE3 5422 5C61 F6B7 06FB 7E04 3738 EE25 DE3F 1CDB 0FE3 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1198 Lines: 29 On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Michael Evans wrote: > I remember hearing that 1.x had /no/ plans for kernel level > auto-detection ever. That can be accomplished in early-userspace > leaving the code in the kernel much less complex, and therefore far > more reliable. Yes, it is far more reliable kernel side, if only because it doesn't do anything. But the userspace reliability is _not_ good. initrds are a source of problems the moment things start to go wrong, and that's when they are not the problem themselves. And the end result is a system that needs manual intervention to get its root filesystem back. In my experience, every time we moved critical codepaths to userspace, we ended up decreasing the *overall* system reliability. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/