Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753369Ab0BQRmM (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:42:12 -0500 Received: from mail.lang.hm ([64.81.33.126]:59485 "EHLO bifrost.lang.hm" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752514Ab0BQRmK (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:42:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:41:53 -0800 (PST) From: david@lang.hm X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Kyle Moffett cc: Rudy Zijlstra , Neil Brown , "Mr. James W. Laferriere" , Bill Davidsen , Volker Armin Hemmann , Michael Evans , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux mdadm superblock question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201002140251.59668.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <4877c76c1002132002s20d942c3i7cee5418cdcf369c@mail.gmail.com> <201002141940.35716.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <4B7AD35E.7000405@tmr.com> <20100217130103.3ca65ef3@notabene.brown> <4B7BB927.5000305@grumpydevil.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="680960-721633254-1266428513=:4721" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1756 Lines: 42 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --680960-721633254-1266428513=:4721 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Kyle Moffett wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 04:38, Rudy Zijlstra > wrote: >> Kyle Moffett wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 21:01, Neil Brown wrote: >>>> I will not be removing 0.90 or auto-assemble from the kernel in the >>>> foreseeable future. >>>> None the less, I recommend weaning yourself from your dependence on it. >>>> initramfs is the future, embrace it. >>>> >>> >>> What are people's reasons for pushback against initramfs?  I've heard >>> lots of claims that "it's not trustworthy" and "it breaks", but in 7 >>> years of running bootable software RAID boxes on weird architectures >>> (even running Debian unstable) I have only once or twice had initramfs >>> problems. Kyle, for a distro that is trying to make one kernel image run on every possible type of hardware features like initramfs (and udev, modeules, etc) are wonderful. however for people who run systems that are known ahead of time and static (and who build their own kernels instead of just relying on the distro default kernel), all of this is unnessesary complication, which leaves more room for problems to creep in. David Lang --680960-721633254-1266428513=:4721-- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/