Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:37:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:37:45 -0400 Received: from nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com ([66.187.233.200]:60862 "EHLO devserv.devel.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:37:44 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:37:43 -0400 From: Pete Zaitcev Message-Id: <200204240037.g3O0bhT11578@devserv.devel.redhat.com> To: Pavel Machek Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: BK, deltas, snapshots and fate of -pre... In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> > The well-defined resync points are the 2.5.N releases. If -pre goes away, >> > then the dot-releases might need to come a little closer together, that's all. >> >> I agree. >> >> I've told myself that I shouldn't have done "-preX" releases at all in >> 2.5.x - the "real" numbers have become diluted by them, and I suspect the >> -pre's are really just because I got used to making them during the >> over-long 2.4.x time. > > I believe -pre's are still important. Daily snapshots are too likely to be > broken, and "real" releases are different from -pre ones (with *usefull* > difference): you can ignore -pre release, but you can't ignore real release > (because real releases are relative to each other). Pavel, I think it is an delusion. In practical terms we have a string of -pre and traditional releases which differ really little in terms of reliability. I number of 2.5.x without -pre fail to compile different non-core modules. 2.5.9 hangs on boot on my machine, while -preX worked. Marcelo pays more attention to stabilizing suffixless releases, and as well he should. However, I do not see how this can be meaningfuly done in 2.5.x. I am not going to shed any tears over the demise of -pre in unstable series, provided that releases get spaced tighter, with smaller patch size between them. -- Pete - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/