Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932087Ab0FAO1E (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:27:04 -0400 Received: from cantor.suse.de ([195.135.220.2]:57288 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756421Ab0FAO1A (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:27:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 00:26:55 +1000 From: Nick Piggin To: Christof Schmitt Cc: Chris Mason , Boaz Harrosh , James Bottomley , "Martin K. Petersen" , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write Message-ID: <20100601142655.GV9453@laptop> References: <20100531112817.GA16260@schmichrtp.mainz.de.ibm.com> <1275318102.2823.47.camel@mulgrave.site> <4C03D5FD.3000202@panasas.com> <20100601103041.GA15922@schmichrtp.mainz.de.ibm.com> <20100601130325.GG8980@think> <20100601135059.GA21008@schmichrtp.mainz.de.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100601135059.GA21008@schmichrtp.mainz.de.ibm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3666 Lines: 70 On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 03:50:59PM +0200, Christof Schmitt wrote: > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:03:25AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:30:42PM +0200, Christof Schmitt wrote: > > > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 06:30:05PM +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote: > > > > On 05/31/2010 06:01 PM, James Bottomley wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 10:20 -0400, Martin K. Petersen wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> "Christof" == Christof Schmitt writes: > > > > >> > > > > >> Christof> Since the guard tags are created in Linux, it seems that the > > > > >> Christof> data attached to the write request changes between the > > > > >> Christof> generation in bio_integrity_generate and the call to > > > > >> Christof> sd_prep_fn. > > > > >> > > > > >> Yep, known bug. Page writeback locking is messed up for buffer_head > > > > >> users. The extNfs folks volunteered to look into this a while back but > > > > >> I don't think they have found the time yet. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Christof> Using ext3 or ext4 instead of ext2 does not show the problem. > > > > >> > > > > >> Last I looked there were still code paths in ext3 and ext4 that > > > > >> permitted pages to be changed during flight. I guess you've just been > > > > >> lucky. > > > > > > > > > > Pages have always been modifiable in flight. The OS guarantees they'll > > > > > be rewritten, so the drivers can drop them if it detects the problem. > > > > > This is identical to the iscsi checksum issue (iscsi adds a checksum > > > > > because it doesn't trust TCP/IP and if the checksum is generated in > > > > > software, there's time between generation and page transmission for the > > > > > alteration to occur). The solution in the iscsi case was not to > > > > > complain if the page is still marked dirty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And also why RAID1 and RAID4/5/6 need the data bounced. I wish VFS > > > > would prevent data writing given a device queue flag that requests > > > > it. So all these devices and modes could just flag the VFS/filesystems > > > > that: "please don't allow concurrent writes, otherwise I need to copy data" > > > > > > > > From what Chris Mason has said before, all the mechanics are there, and it's > > > > what btrfs is doing. Though I don't know how myself? > > > > > > I also tested with btrfs and invalid guard tags in writes have been > > > encountered as well (again in 2.6.34). The only difference is that no > > > error was reported to userspace, although this might be a > > > configuration issue. > > > > This would be a btrfs bug. We have strict checks in place that are > > supposed to prevent buffers changing while in flight. What was the > > workload that triggered this problem? > > I am running an internal test tool that creates files with a known > pattern until the disk is full, reads the data to verify if the > pattern is still intact, removes the files and starts over. How are the checks done? The lock_page and wait_on_page_writeback from prepare_pages? Looks OK but AFAIKS you would need to unmap_mapping_range() the range after taking the locks. You are also screwed if the page is in the process of being modified by a get_user_pages() caller. You'd have to add VM_IO to vm_flags to prevent get_user_pages. Direct-IO is always going to have the same problems, so it's not like block based solutions can just pretend it will easily go away. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/