Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755645Ab0FASbE (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jun 2010 14:31:04 -0400 Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu ([198.82.162.213]:55488 "EHLO lennier.cc.vt.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752206Ab0FASbB (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jun 2010 14:31:01 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 To: "Fred ." Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: What computer do Linus and other prominent kernel developers have? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:28:01 +0200." From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1275417053_7824P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:30:53 -0400 Message-ID: <24873.1275417053@localhost> X-Mirapoint-Received-SPF: 128.173.14.107 localhost Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu 2 pass X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=neutral-1, source=Fixed, refid=n/a, actions=MAILHURDLE SPF TAG X-Junkmail-Info: (45) HELO_LOCALHOST X-Junkmail-Status: score=45/50, host=vivi.cc.vt.edu X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A020208.4C0551DD.018A,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2009-09-22 00:05:22, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3370 Lines: 74 --==_Exmh_1275417053_7824P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:28:01 +0200, "Fred ." said: > What exact computer hardware components do Linus Torvalds have in his > computer system? > Also other prominent kernel developers like Alan Cox, etc. > > If want to buy same motherboard, CPU, GPU, HDD, etc. > > That way, I know there wont be any problems running Linux, because if > I have that problem, > then he will also have that problem. > If he have that problem, he will surely fix it. I'm not a prominent developer, I'm just a semi-famous crash test dummy, but.. ;) "Hey, we just found something which doesn't crash my Vaio!" -- Andrew Morton Note carefully the following problems with your plan: 1) People like Linus, Alan, and Andrew are all perfectly capable of running a kernel that has a cherry-picked fix or two on it. So it's quite possible they have a system that 2.6.34 doesn't run on, but 2.6.34 plus 3 fixes does. This can add substantially to your support costs. 2) It may not even be possible to *get* the exact same configuration anymore, because the vendor has changed things around. I have a Dell Latitude E6500 laptop. It has a " MATSHITA DVD+/-RW UJ892" in it. If you buy an E6500, there is a good chance it will come with some *other* DVD burner (one of my co-workers kept count, and was up to over a dozen different CD drives/models that Dell shipped during the long production run of one of their Optiplex models). 3) If they have some odd hardware config, and you have troubles installing/ maintaining it on that odd config, you're unlikely to be able to get personal support from them. However, if you get the same config as 3 zillion Linux fanboys, any one of them will be able to bail you out. (I tell newcomers to Linux not to install the distro that's "cool" - install the distro you can get tech support by buying a pizza for the teenager next door. ;) 4) It's quite possible they have hardware that has known issues that don't bother them in their daily usage, but render it useless for your usage. (For instance, I have *no idea* if suspend works on this E6500, because I never use suspend - it's not even built into my kernel. If it's broken on this model and you *need* suspend support, you'll be a very unhappy camper. 4a) A related issue - not only do you need the same hardware, but also the same .config and distro, in case there's mis-match out there. And some developers do odd things either because they just haven't bothered upgrading their userspace, or they intentionally want to test kernels for backward compatibility. I think Andrew still has a Fedora 7 or 8 out there. Will suck if you get that same hardware and discover you need Fedora 13 to support some software you need and Andrew doesn't use... --==_Exmh_1275417053_7824P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQFMBVHdcC3lWbTT17ARApfqAJ4+6708keYPibUQiI6rQI/i3od9AACg/KNC KIrgG6i8AymOZIYAzsI7OoQ= =eQoB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1275417053_7824P-- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/