Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754710Ab0FASrK (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jun 2010 14:47:10 -0400 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:60605 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751282Ab0FASrI (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Jun 2010 14:47:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 04:46:49 +1000 From: Nick Piggin To: Chris Mason , James Bottomley , Matthew Wilcox , Christof Schmitt , Boaz Harrosh , "Martin K. Petersen" , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write Message-ID: <20100601184649.GE9453@laptop> References: <4C03D5FD.3000202@panasas.com> <20100601103041.GA15922@schmichrtp.mainz.de.ibm.com> <1275398876.21962.6.camel@mulgrave.site> <20100601133341.GK8980@think> <1275399637.21962.11.camel@mulgrave.site> <20100601134951.GM8980@think> <20100601162929.GC32708@parisc-linux.org> <20100601164750.GQ8980@think> <1275411293.21962.387.camel@mulgrave.site> <20100601180905.GR8980@think> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100601180905.GR8980@think> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2287 Lines: 44 On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 02:09:05PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 04:54:53PM +0000, James Bottomley wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 12:47 -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 10:29:30AM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:49:51AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > > > > > > I agree that a block based retry would close all the holes ... it just > > > > > > doesn't look elegant to me that the fs will already be repeating the I/O > > > > > > if it changed the page and so will block. > > > > > > > > > > We might not ever repeat the IO. We might change the page, write it, > > > > > change it again, truncate the file and toss the page completely. > > > > > > > > Why does it matter that it was never written in that case? > > > > > > It matters is the storage layer is going to wait around for the block to > > > be written again with a correct crc. > > > > Actually, I wasn't advocating that. I think block should return a guard > > mismatch error. I think somewhere in filesystem writeout is the place > > to decide whether the error was self induced or systematic. > > In that case the io error goes to the async page writeback bio-endio > handlers. We don't have a reference on the inode and no ability to > reliably restart the IO, but we can set a bit on the address space > indicating that somewhere, sometime in the past we had an IO error. > > > For self > > induced errors (as long as we can detect them) I think we can just > > forget about it ... if the changed page is important, the I/O request > > gets repeated (modulo the problem of too great a frequency of changes > > leading to us never successfully writing it) or it gets dropped because > > the file was truncated or the data deleted for some other reason. > > Sorry, how can we tell the errors that are self induced from the evil > bit flipping cable induced errors? Block layer should retry it with bounce pages. That would be a lot nicer than forcing all upper layers to avoid the problem. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/