Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757686Ab0FBJjU (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Jun 2010 05:39:20 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([18.85.46.34]:55468 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755918Ab0FBJjT convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Jun 2010 05:39:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8) From: Peter Zijlstra To: Arve =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hj=F8nnev=E5g?= Cc: Thomas Gleixner , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Florian Mickler , Matthew Garrett , Alan Stern , Paul@smtp1.linux-foundation.org, LKML , felipe.balbi@nokia.com, Linux OMAP Mailing List , Linux PM , Alan Cox In-Reply-To: References: <201005302202.39511.rjw@sisk.pl> <201005312347.24251.rjw@sisk.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:39:21 +0200 Message-ID: <1275471561.27810.30865.camel@twins> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 985 Lines: 27 On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 01:54 -0700, Arve Hjønnevåg wrote: > No I want you to stop confusing low power idle modes with suspend. I think it is you who is confused. For power management purposes suspend is nothing more but a deep idle state. (and please don't mention @#$@ up x86 ACPI again, Intel knows, they're fixing it, get over it already). > Unrelated to > Android, I also want to use opportunistic suspend on my desktop. So you're going to sprinkle this suspend blocker shite all over regular userspace? Why not instead work on getting apps to behave properly and idle when there's nothing to do? After all, if you have the code to add suspend blockers into, you also have the means to fix it being stupid in the first place. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/