Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754892Ab0FCOMS (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:12:18 -0400 Received: from ist.d-labs.de ([213.239.218.44]:33997 "EHLO mx01.d-labs.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753490Ab0FCOMR (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:12:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:12:05 +0200 From: Florian Mickler To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Arve =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Hj=F8nnev=E5g?= , Thomas Gleixner , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Matthew Garrett , Alan Stern , Paul@smtp1.linux-foundation.org, LKML , felipe.balbi@nokia.com, Linux OMAP Mailing List , Linux PM , Alan Cox Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8) Message-ID: <20100603161205.73a2b56d@schatten.dmk.lab> In-Reply-To: <1275550802.27810.34863.camel@twins> References: <201005302202.39511.rjw@sisk.pl> <201005312347.24251.rjw@sisk.pl> <1275471561.27810.30865.camel@twins> <1275474088.27810.31000.camel@twins> <20100602221309.6da754e7@schatten.dmk.lab> <1275550802.27810.34863.camel@twins> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 910 Lines: 24 On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:40:02 +0200 Peter Zijlstra wrote: > Same for firefox, you can teach it to not render animated gifs and run > javascript for invisible tabs, and once the screen-saver kicks in, > nothing is visible (and with X telling apps their window is visible or > not it knows), so it should go idle all of its own. > > Fix the friggin apps, don't kludge with freezing. Of course programs should be as smart as possible. But that is an orthogonal problem. Suppose firefox were fixed. It still needs to fetch my rss feeds every minute, because I'm sad if it doesn't. It just can't be fixed at the application level. Cheers, Flo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/