Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755446Ab0FETUe (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jun 2010 15:20:34 -0400 Received: from ogre.sisk.pl ([217.79.144.158]:55129 "EHLO ogre.sisk.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751719Ab0FETUc (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jun 2010 15:20:32 -0400 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: Maxim Levitsky Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: Proposal for a new algorithm =?utf-8?q?for=09reading_=26_writing_a_hibernation?= image. Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 21:21:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (Linux/2.6.35-rc1-rjw; KDE/4.3.5; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Nigel Cunningham , pm list , LKML , "TuxOnIce-devel" References: <9rpccea67yy402c975fqru8r.1275576653521@email.android.com> <201006052045.19889.rjw@sisk.pl> <1275765021.12828.2.camel@maxim-laptop> In-Reply-To: <1275765021.12828.2.camel@maxim-laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201006052121.45816.rjw@sisk.pl> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1894 Lines: 39 On Saturday 05 June 2010, Maxim Levitsky wrote: > On Sat, 2010-06-05 at 20:45 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Saturday 05 June 2010, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > > > Hi again. > > > > > > As I think about this more, I reckon we could run into problems at > > > resume time with reloading the image. Even if some bits aren't modified > > > as we're writing the image, they still might need to be atomically > > > restored. If we make the atomic restore part too small, we might not be > > > able to do that. > > > > > > So perhaps the best thing would be to stick with the way TuxOnIce splits > > > the image at the moment (page cache / process pages vs 'rest'), but > > > using this faulting mechanism to ensure we do get all the pages that are > > > changed while writing the first part of the image. > > > > I still don't quite understand why you insist on saving the page cache data > > upfront and re-using the memory occupied by them for another purpose. If you > > dropped that requirement, I'd really have much less of a problem with the > > TuxOnIce's approach. > Because its the biggest advantage? It isn't in fact. > Really saving whole memory makes huge difference. You don't have to save the _whole_ memory to get the same speed (you don't do that anyway, but the amount of data you don't put into the image with TuxOnIce is smaller). Something like 80% would be just sufficient IMO and then (a) the level of complications involved would drop significantly and (2) you'd be able to use the image-reading code already in the kernel without any modifications. It really looks like a win-win to me, doesn't it? Rafael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/