Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933399Ab0FEVxP (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jun 2010 17:53:15 -0400 Received: from ist.d-labs.de ([213.239.218.44]:36510 "EHLO mx01.d-labs.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933039Ab0FEVxN (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jun 2010 17:53:13 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 23:52:57 +0200 From: Florian Mickler To: Felipe Contreras Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Peter Zijlstra , James Bottomley , Arve =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Hj=F8nnev=E5g?= , tytso@mit.edu, LKML , Linux PM , Thomas Gleixner , Linux OMAP Mailing List , felipe.balbi@nokia.com, Alan Cox Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8) Message-ID: <20100605235257.7d1329ec@schatten.dmk.lab> In-Reply-To: References: <20100527222514.0a1710bf@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <1275149418.4503.128.camel@mulgrave.site> <1275156734.1645.496.camel@laptop> <201005312314.12391.rjw@sisk.pl> <20100605214939.49dd0ee0@schatten.dmk.lab> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1333 Lines: 35 On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:56:45 +0300 Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Florian Mickler wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:16:33 +0300 > > Felipe Contreras wrote: > >> New users will see it has low score; they will not install it. That's > >> a network effect. > >> > >> Having users is the quintessential reason people write code. > > > > That is nice. But how does it impact the problem that suspend blockers > > solve? And why do suspend blockers interfere with that? > > It doesn't, I don't know why people keep bringing this argument, I > just though it should not be left open as a valid one. > > I should have mentioned that this is indeed irrelevant. > Uh! I found out how this is relevant to the suspend blockers case. Because not having users means that the bugs don't get fixed. Whereas in the suspend blockers case the users can use the app and get the bugs fixed. Cheers, Flo p.s.: I really wished you would focus more on solving the problem and not on dismissing it. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/