Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:39:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:39:23 -0400 Received: from mail.storm.ca ([209.87.239.66]:15041 "EHLO mail.storm.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:39:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3CCD93E6.F637706A@storm.ca> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:41:42 -0400 From: Sandy Harris Organization: Flashman's Dragoons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.8-26mdkenterprise i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: The tainted message In-Reply-To: <1019926629.2045.698.camel@phantasy> <1020099580.5131.14.camel@w-beattie1> <20020429171516.GA25377@louise.pinerecords.com> <20020429184331.3230f5ab.spyro@armlinux.org> <20020429174232.GA25502@louise.pinerecords.com> <20020429192107.GA26369@louise.pinerecords.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org tomas szepe wrote: > > >> thie warning should be: > > >> > > >> Warning: Module %s is not open source, and as such, loading it will make > > >> your kernel un-debuggable. Please do not submit bug reports from a kernel > > >> with this module loaded, as they will be useless, and likely ignored. > > > > > >Very good! I'd only change the tense to "The non-opensource module %s is > > >about to be loaded, which will make your kernel impossible to debug," so > > >that it's crystal clear that the message is not a failure notification. > > > > Pschologically it would be better to phrase it as a postive statement. > > > > Warning: Module %s is not open source, and as such, loading it will > > make your kernel un-debuggable. Before reporting problems to > > Linux-kernel, please replicate the problem without the module loaded. > > You're right. And, hmmm, tell you what.. I also like your version because > it makes no statements whatsoever about vendor support, or support from > anyone else than the people on linux-kernel. > > Now, would anyone attempt to sum up all the points made here and come up > w/ something like a "final-draft" proposal? Warning: Source code for module %s is not publicly available. Problems with a kernel that has loaded this module can be debugged only by someone with access to the module source. Before reporting a problem to the Linux kernel mailing list, please replicate the problem without the module loaded. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/